tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post8493304698382750037..comments2024-03-20T16:27:56.522+00:00Comments on Norfolk Blogger: Another defector to the Tories - Do the Tories set any standards on who they will have ?Nich Starlinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-86800086839052118762008-02-14T19:43:00.000+00:002008-02-14T19:43:00.000+00:00Actually James and Paula, but it is a deselection....Actually James and Paula, but it is a deselection.<BR/><BR/>The number of MEP's in the North West is being cut, making it more unlikely that a second Lib Dem would be elected. however, there is another element to this.<BR/><BR/>Saj karrim reportedly told people that if he was not put as number 1 on the lib Dem list, he would defect. the fact that he came 2nd must have given him a clear message.Nich Starlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-5628852187550644762008-02-14T19:26:00.000+00:002008-02-14T19:26:00.000+00:00As Paula said above Saj was not de-selected. Its v...As Paula said above Saj was not de-selected. Its very unfair to say that of him.<BR/>I can't believe Bob Neill okayed this move. It sounds absolutely absurd and shows the baseness of much of Tower Hamlet politics. They'll join any party to save their careers. Not very democratic. I bet there are some angry Thatcherites tonight.James Schneiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00418770297192706019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-74814376246783336002008-02-14T12:38:00.000+00:002008-02-14T12:38:00.000+00:00When respect split, our local people were helping ...When respect split, our local people were helping at the press conference held by the little group he is defecting from. I didn't notice any outrage from anyone at our obvious wooing of them. <BR/>Further, blogs slam defections to other parties, while when other blogs herald us gaining defectors I do not see similar criticism. I'm not speaking only about you here, although its not so long ago I recall lib dem voice welcoming a respect defector of our own.<BR/>Its great that you hold a principled stand in real life, but it doesn't carry through into blogging; and many who don't hold that view do act hypocritically.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-69878916078120354172008-02-14T10:18:00.000+00:002008-02-14T10:18:00.000+00:00Saj Karim wasn't effectively deselected. He won t...Saj Karim wasn't effectively deselected. He won the second place on the list which is the place he was in for the previous election. We had, and still have, every intention of campaigning to get at least the top two on our list elected.Paula Keaveneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814842819611094232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-43566812728936440242008-02-14T10:09:00.000+00:002008-02-14T10:09:00.000+00:00FYI, "Abjol Miah and George Galloway respond to ne...FYI, <BR/><BR/>"Abjol Miah and George Galloway respond to news of SWP/Respect councillor defecting to Tories"<BR/><BR/>http://worldpressnetwork.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=194Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-86882080139910989062008-02-14T10:07:00.000+00:002008-02-14T10:07:00.000+00:00Actually tinter, I am consistent on not likeind de...Actually tinter, I am consistent on not likeind defections of elected represenetatives. I personally believe if you are elected you should stand down if you defect and seek re-election, and I will remain consistent on this matter, so there is no hypocrisy on my part.<BR/><BR/>I have been involved in gettin gpeople to "switch" to the Lib Dems in the past, but in each case it has been when someone has not been a councillor.<BR/><BR/>We had an interesting situation about two years ago when the Tories in North Norfolk were sure one of our councillors wanted to defect to them. They even minuted it in their group meeting minutes that the tories should be "extra nice to her" in order to make her switch. Interestingly when I showed her the minutes (it's funny how some Tories used to put things in my council pigeon hole) she actualy felt insulted that they had seen her genuine non partisan friendliness as a wish to defect. She remains a Lib Dem still to this day.Nich Starlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-16310320124185977092008-02-14T09:30:00.000+00:002008-02-14T09:30:00.000+00:00Does sound a bit odd. Can someone reject socialis...Does sound a bit odd. Can someone reject socialism overnight?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-43054041298475678292008-02-14T08:03:00.000+00:002008-02-14T08:03:00.000+00:00No one should bat an eyelid over this. It's well k...No one should bat an eyelid over this. It's well known that no one likes a defector; apart from the fact that he isn't trusted by the party he joins, he instantly goes down in the estimation of everyone else. What do you think Quentin Davis and Saj Karrim are thinking now? :)asquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-7887780378723152592008-02-14T04:29:00.000+00:002008-02-14T04:29:00.000+00:00He wouldn't be SWP, he would be a local communalis...He wouldn't be SWP, he would be a local communalist, plenty of whom can be found in all parties.<BR/>I don't like these posts I see all too regularly slamming other parties for accepting poor defectors. Guess what? We do, and we have respect defectors in our ranks (and the have some former lib dem councillors, I believe). <BR/>Unless people start calling equally vocally to kick out or refuse entry to those who we currently accept despite them clearly having no commitment to our political position, then it all rings hollow indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-54777099795630274422008-02-14T01:59:00.000+00:002008-02-14T01:59:00.000+00:00I'd never usually comment on spelling, but it seem...I'd never usually comment on spelling, but it seems there's some serious drunkenese going on in that post!facelesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06230215032978562407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-83960847329312178992008-02-13T23:42:00.000+00:002008-02-13T23:42:00.000+00:00To say I was surprised is an understatement! But w...To say I was surprised is an understatement! But we'll see how it goes.<BR/><BR/>Certainly the Lib Dems have taken some strange characters in over the years...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-6875310114481419932008-02-13T23:17:00.000+00:002008-02-13T23:17:00.000+00:00They'd probably take you too Nick !They'd probably take you too Nick !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com