tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post7856622817233577148..comments2024-03-20T16:27:56.522+00:00Comments on Norfolk Blogger: I'm staying put, for now.Nich Starlinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-49423289139601297272010-05-26T23:26:09.207+01:002010-05-26T23:26:09.207+01:00well Labour will be the only party fighting the Cu...well Labour will be the only party fighting the Cuts, outside the Nationalists<br /><br />And in normal times we know Libs would be there<br /><br />I do hope they will be ????<br /><br />Get real<br /><br />and fight the cuts<br /><br />just look at Gove at Education<br /><br />money for schools of the middle class<br /><br />and F the restAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-90054883992447109292010-05-23T13:05:38.425+01:002010-05-23T13:05:38.425+01:00"mass campaign against cuts"
Cuts a Labo..."mass campaign against cuts"<br />Cuts a Labour government would have made.Manfaranghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16672026288937285646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-24649897085552526392010-05-20T18:20:00.145+01:002010-05-20T18:20:00.145+01:00as stated previously
even as a local Norfolk Labo...as stated previously<br />even as a local Norfolk Labour supporter<br /><br />while it would be great to have you in membership<br /><br />actually we need you toat least fight for education, health and Norfolk<br /><br />once the Coalition has proved as bad as we all fear<br /><br />then you can consider your party membership<br /><br />maybe independent etc<br /><br />love to have you in our great Party<br />but you have to be comfortable with that journey<br /><br />and that may not be the case presently<br /><br />We will have a mass campaign against cuts soon<br /><br />we hope to see you on the baricadesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-44269493479971822302010-05-20T18:11:02.841+01:002010-05-20T18:11:02.841+01:00Coalition
great news for rapist'sCoalition<br /><br />great news for rapist'sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-17893095978380138372010-05-20T00:07:13.265+01:002010-05-20T00:07:13.265+01:00principles?
er, what principles?principles?<br /><br />er, what principles?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-41139445595909067772010-05-19T17:31:43.647+01:002010-05-19T17:31:43.647+01:00As you know I have blogged on your feelings myself...As you know I have blogged on your feelings myself. I believe your principled position is the best one. It also allows you to see what happens. If you ever leave the Lib Dems it will be a great loss to the Lib Dems.dazmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14859994295771083457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-24038725603408337742010-05-19T00:02:58.745+01:002010-05-19T00:02:58.745+01:00I don't think there is any country which has p...I don't think there is any country which has proportional representation which does not have a coalition government, something that is comparatively rare with "first past the post".<br />If the LibDems don't like a coalition government perhaps they need to think again about PR.English Pensionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15271488641341955140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-32193613300470884352010-05-18T16:58:26.145+01:002010-05-18T16:58:26.145+01:00Do you really want me to make a great deal of the ...Do you really want me to make a great deal of the attendance record of the previous Tory ?<br /><br />Best left forgotten considering he attended just one full council meeting in th pervious 12 months priort to my by-election and I was greeted by a Parish Councillor at my first Parish Council meeting with the words "You've beaten your predecessor's attendance at these meetings already".<br /><br />It's a matter of public record how many meetings Cllr Dicks attended. The EDP also reported on it at the time.Nich Starlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-14759886056781495202010-05-18T07:26:38.327+01:002010-05-18T07:26:38.327+01:00Nich said
"Interesting that according to one...Nich said<br /><br />"Interesting that according to one parish councillor my tory predecessor didn't attend parish council meetings"<br /><br />Namwe and shame please. Prove what you are saying.Johnny Norfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900659617233793880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-78976831198741990422010-05-17T22:22:42.048+01:002010-05-17T22:22:42.048+01:00Cheer up Nick. You nasty posters, shame on you - ...Cheer up Nick. You nasty posters, shame on you - dissent and debate is healthy and LibDem. I don't know what it all means either but the hard Right hate it - surely a good sign?NORFOLKMUMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-43167171655457609952010-05-17T22:09:03.736+01:002010-05-17T22:09:03.736+01:00Duncan, you should have had a closer look at Norma...Duncan, you should have had a closer look at Norman Lamb. He's well into the top 20 of expense claimants. £1000 per month on mortgage interest for his second home for example.<br /><br />How is Cable getting on implementing those £6 bn cuts that would have lead to a double dip recession only a few days ago, according to none other than, er, Vince Cable?<br /><br />ah, the new politics. Makes you all warm insideMan in the streetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-18018271311727722282010-05-17T21:05:01.678+01:002010-05-17T21:05:01.678+01:00I can't be bothered to trawl through the comme...I can't be bothered to trawl through the comments, I got as far as Mark's. But my sentiment is much as his. You an dI have sat in dining room in North Walsham discussing how to remove the North Norfolk seat from the Tories. I reported Derek Conway for the employment of his son Henry. I did the Three Jobs Bob newspaper cover in the Bromley by-election. But I voted for. I am very pleased to see you hanging in there Nich. The decision was bound to upset some people and drive them away, glad that you aer being pragmatic for the reasons you give.Duncan Borrowmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05301480655035778743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-40935057773981824542010-05-17T19:17:41.550+01:002010-05-17T19:17:41.550+01:00Should have added, I'm off now to a Parish Cou...Should have added, I'm off now to a Parish Council meeting. <br /><br />It's the sort of thing local councillors should do.<br /><br />Interesting that according to one parish councillor my tory predecessor didn't attend parish council meetings !Nich Starlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-35974366202184231512010-05-17T19:16:30.765+01:002010-05-17T19:16:30.765+01:00You utter fool. Learn to read or at least have a b...You utter fool. Learn to read or at least have a basic understanding of how a council works.<br /><br />If I resigned as a Lib Dem, I would still be a councillor anyway. You pathetic troll, posting things anonymously and making your self sound quite pathetic.<br /><br />Oh, and for the record, I do not claim for all the things I am entitled to claim for anyway.<br /><br />Post such false and malicious allegations and I will delete them.Nich Starlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-23505045314345068342010-05-17T18:32:21.161+01:002010-05-17T18:32:21.161+01:00What in the hell are you saying. Are you staying o...What in the hell are you saying. Are you staying on the council for the expenses. Go andjoin Labour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-51325847616310883892010-05-17T16:25:33.851+01:002010-05-17T16:25:33.851+01:00When ever you agree with me, I know I am in the wr...When ever you agree with me, I know I am in the wrong.<br /><br />You only see the world as a left right struggle, a sort of gitial rather than analogue world.<br /><br />If I were Labour I would have joined the Labour party years ago. The problem is that so many people see the world this way and that is why they are stuck in their class struggle.<br /><br />When you get over yourself you might see the world in a multicoloured way and not with your blue tinted spectacles.Nich Starlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-5304948017716887002010-05-17T15:50:13.500+01:002010-05-17T15:50:13.500+01:00As you can all see nick is really a Labour man. He...As you can all see nick is really a Labour man. He just cannot bring himself to try and see if it works.<br /><br />Its a pity as it is this attitude both from the far left and far right that has cost this country dear.<br /><br />As a country can we not agree how the NHS and education should be run for example. The problem is that the Labour party is a party of revolution.Johnny Norfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900659617233793880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-58469000208324998772010-05-17T15:19:43.317+01:002010-05-17T15:19:43.317+01:00Good Heavens Peter, Nich had HELP to win Taverham?...Good Heavens Peter, Nich had HELP to win Taverham?? I am astonished! I never knew, and I am sure he never admitted it!!<br /><br />Truth is - he is closet Labour lover; with a visceral hatred of the Tories. Of course he is going to despise the coalition. Most of us realise that we would never had a hope in hell of getting any of our policies anywhere near government; and we relish the chance of really making a difference; but not our Nich - the coalition isn't with his chums the Labour lot, and so he's have a personality crisis.<br /><br />Quite frankly we can well do without such drama queens.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-5090476451278537592010-05-17T12:45:49.806+01:002010-05-17T12:45:49.806+01:00Nich as one of the many who helped you win Taverha...Nich as one of the many who helped you win Taverham and a fellow Broadland Councillor I welcome that you are staying on as a Lib Dem for the time being and hope greatly for all our sakes that in the longer run all works out well so you and others feel your worst concerns unjustified. For myself I readily share many if not all your fears. It is not the denial of such matters, but rather my greater concern of the serious consequences of a further period of political uncertainty in the current perilous economic situation which relegates such matters to secondary importance in my mind. Liberal Democrats have not been dealt an easy hand. I believe we are doing the right thing, certainly by the country if not necesarily by our own Party although realistically we will be lucky to get proper credit for so doing. Only time will show (and then probably inconclusively) who was right.<br />All the best<br /><br />PeterUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686541576050494013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-77245397283632465162010-05-17T12:05:30.967+01:002010-05-17T12:05:30.967+01:00Nick,
It's a pity you didn't come to yes...Nick,<br /> It's a pity you didn't come to yesterday's Special Conference. You might still have voted against, but you'd have seen a really good Lib Dem debate.<br /><br />There were speeches against the coalition, which were listened to with respect even though they did not convince many people; there were also great speeches in favour, most notably by Simon Hughes. Seeing old sparring partners Tom McNally and Tony Greaves in complete agreement was also remarkable. Ordinary members got to speak too - I know because I was one of them.<br /><br />There were amendments - all passed - calling on our new ministers and MPs to defend the HRA, say no to any increase in tuition fees, introduce PR in local elections etc.<br /><br />Two ministers effectively said they'd resign if the government abolished the HRA.<br /><br />On nuclear power, our ministers confirmed that there will be NO public subsidy to the costs of nuclear power stations, including decommissioning costs; I suspect that means they won't be built as I believe they are uneconomic if you take all cost into account.<br /><br />One speaker said that no longer locking up the children of asylum seekers was what convinced them. And remember, a Labour Party which locked up innocent children, introduced the database state, created so many new criminal offences that even lawyers can't keep up with them, banned peaceful protest near Parliament, and promised PR when in opposition, and again when they had lost, but failed to introduce during the 13 years that the had the power to, cannot be called "progressive".<br /><br />In the end, about 99% of us voted in favour of the coalition. That does not mean we're blind to the risks, but because each of us saw that the opportunities to move our policies "off FOCUS and into Government" outweighed the negatives, and even the sick feeling of having to work with Conservatives.David Wrightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-16460505792362762142010-05-17T10:04:27.862+01:002010-05-17T10:04:27.862+01:00Nich,
Glad to hear you are staying put for now. ...Nich,<br /><br />Glad to hear you are staying put for now. I think the onus is on Nick Clegg and the Parliamentary Party to demonstrate that the coalition does deliver what is hoped. It's relatively easy to see the things that <b>won't</b> happen as a result of coalition (repeal of Human Rights Act is a favourite of mine); the critical question for me is whether <b>positive</b> changes will also result.<br /><br />It's a huge risk - but I think it's also a huge opportunity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-51216368999431072972010-05-17T09:06:30.904+01:002010-05-17T09:06:30.904+01:00Thank God there are a few Liberals who actually be...Thank God there are a few Liberals who actually believe that the Lib Dem voting electorate did NOT vote for a Tory government.<br />To say I am disappointed is a massive understatement but I have suspected for some time that many of our leading Lib Dems have been more interested in so called power than in political integrity. Witness the Ashdown fiasco in 1997.<br />It is, however, important that our 51 elected MPs should recognize the potential consequences of their actions not only to themselves but also to the liberal cause in the future.<br />Please take a look at http://northbriton45plus.blogspot.com<br /> and, if you wish post a vote.http://northbriton45plus.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-46899317155706754712010-05-17T08:12:10.187+01:002010-05-17T08:12:10.187+01:00Look we cannot go on spending so "those cuts&...Look we cannot go on spending so "those cuts" will have to be made sometime. WE HAVE RUN OUT OF MONEY.<br />Its frankly astonishing that so many so called educated people do not understand the most basic of economics.Johnny Norfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900659617233793880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-19595903984744035962010-05-17T00:16:53.062+01:002010-05-17T00:16:53.062+01:00Nich,
Get over it old chap. The link up may wipe ...Nich,<br /><br />Get over it old chap. The link up may wipe out the LDs but surely the orange bookers can join the Conservatives and the lefties can Join the Greens or Labour.<br /><br />Are you staying on the council just to get the allowance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33696095.post-35888035811198562482010-05-17T00:16:26.746+01:002010-05-17T00:16:26.746+01:00Hi NB,
I've been following your continuing co...Hi NB,<br /><br />I've been following your continuing concerns about the coalition with some interest. Many of us have been going through a similarly turbulent period of questioning.<br /><br />However, my journey over this last week has been more about repeatedly changing my mind on the pragmatics than about a sustained tussle with conscience.<br /><br />So while I've blogged about my decision in <a href="http://hopingformorethanslogans.blogspot.com/2010/05/jumping-all-over-fence.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a>, it might not help you.<br /><br />Nevertheless, perhaps it's a little reassuring to know that, unlike some of the people you've heard from on this issue recently, many of us are still uncertain about whether the coalition was the wisest course of action. Time, as always, will tell.<br /><br />Best wishes,<br />LWLon Wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08084739915361657921noreply@blogger.com